Surly's Soap Box

Thursday, September 21, 2006

Been Working on some Church Stuff
I spent the last couple of days work on a baby dedication service. It's interesting doing stuff like this because, 1. the church I belong to hasn't really had a hard and fast way of doing stuff like this, and 2. This is the first time I've done something like this. I'm honored to be asked to be part of the service, and have been praying that the service will be a blessing to the parents, their guests, and the church as well.

Here is a rough out line of how it will go. I just cut and pasted it from Word.





Thursday, August 31, 2006

Women in Ministry: Last Call
Here is the final draft of my position paper on Women in Leadership. I want to thank all the people who challenged, encouraged me, and even disagreed with me.

What you have here is the result of a lot of prayer, study and discussion.



I want to establish from the beginning that I believe that the Church’s ministry to the Church is to Encourage, Equip, and Release.

When I first started researching this paper, I noticed a correlation between the ordaining of women and the embracing of liberal theology:

1. The Methodist Church and the Presbyterian Church-USA (North) began ordaining women in 1956.
2. Presbyterian Church-USA (South) in 1964, (North) in 1969.
3. The ELCA in 1970.
4. The Episcopal Church in 1976.

Today, these denominations are noted for their liberal theology, sinking to the point of ordaining homosexuals, accepting Unitarianism (rejecting the Work of the Cross, everyone gets in), and denying the Bible as God's divinely inspired Word.

At first, I thought that the two issues of women in leadership and rejecting God’s Word went hand in hand, and I felt that the way to stop the encroachment of liberal theology was to keep women out of leadership because allowing them to assume leadership over men seemed to be the ‘beginning of the end’.

Though the last few weeks of prayer, study, and discussion, I have come to the conclusion that the issue isn’t women in leadership, but the spirit by which they got there. The list of churches above began accepting women into leadership not because of a call on peoples lives or a recognition of giftings, but out of a more political sense: Feminism. Once they embraced feminism, there began the downward spiral.

They began rejecting the inerrancy of the Bible, started emasculating men and blurring gender roles, and began questioning the Fatherhood of God. (I’ve seen paintings of ‘female Jesus’ in places where liberal theology has taken root in the Philippines and Guatemala) There are people in these liberal churches encouraging prayer to “God, our Mother”, which opens the door to Earth Goddess religions and the rejection of the Bible all together.

However, I see that in charismatic circles, the ordination of women has not lead down a path of liberalism. Why? It’s because they believe in the inerrancy of the bible, the fatherhood of God, that homosexuality is sin, that men and women where created with different characteristics and roles, that Jesus died on the cross for our sin and to pave away to reconciliation. They also recognize that God calls people and gifts them for ministry, and that you don’t arrive there due to quotas, equal rights, or earning it. It’s not a function of politics.

So to discuss women in leadership is to actually ask, “What are the qualifications for leaders, regardless of gender?”


Titus 1:5-9 5The reason I left you in Crete was that you might straighten out what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you. 6An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

When it comes to selecting elders and pastors for the Church, the Bible gives us a clear list of character traits a leader must have: must be blameless, one spouse (This is the only rewording of scripture that I will use), their children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient, blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain, must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.

Their lives are already baring bearing fruit consistent with the call.

There is also a call to “hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.” One of the biggest challenges the Church faces today is being swallowed up by the world around. We can’t embrace the world and embrace the cross. So even though the world is trying to tell us what to believe, that our doctrine is wrong, that something is wrong with the church because we won’t accept the world, we must stand on the Word of God and live our lives in the shadow of the Cross.

I believe that the ‘sound doctrine’ aspect of choosing an elder or pastor must include, but not limited to :

1. The belief the Bible is God's divinely inspired Word, revealed to mankind (2 Tim. 3:16)
2. The belief that the fullness of God came to earth and lived in the human body of Jesus Christ of Nazareth 2,000 years ago (Col. 1:19).
3. The belief that believing in (John 3:15-19, 5:24), and obeying (Luke 8:21, John 3:20, John 14:21, 23-24) Jesus Christ is the only way to have eternal life or to be reunited with God (Acts 4:10-12).
4. The beliefs that God created men and women with different characteristics and roles that compliement each other.
5. The belief that homosexuality is a sin and not an acceptable lifestyle. (Romans 1:24-27)
6. An acknowledgement of the Fatherhood of God.


Really, if someone has issue with any of these basic Biblical believes, I can not accept them as a leader.

To summarize:

1. A leader’s life must bare bear fruit consistent with the call prior to the call.
2. That call needs to be confirmed by others.
3. There needs to be an acceptance of basic Biblical beliefs.

Blessings,
Dave

Friday, August 25, 2006

Tough Question: Women in Leadership
This is the rough draft of my position paper on "The Roles of Men and Women in Church Leadership". It's long. It's heady. Probably the most scholarly thing I've written since attending college. And to be honest, I'll probably become one of the least popular people in my church. But my intention is to follow Jesus, and I believe the Bible is God's divinely inspired word, so that is where I find my peace.








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Thursday, August 24, 2006

Church in Transistion: Tough Questions
I haven't posted on the transition my church is going through for a while because it's been a process of meetings, questions and discussions. One of the tough questions that has come up is, "What is the role of women in ministry and leadership?"

It's one of those questions that can cause tempers to flare, feeling to be hurt, and people to leave.

Right now, a few of us are are writing position papers on the issue. It's an exercise we went through a few years ago but nothing came of it, and as a result of a couple of hard drives crashing, I can't find my old paper so I'm starting over.

Smarter men (and women) have dug into this issue than I, so I have been reading "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism" by John Piper and Wayne Grudem. They take the unpopular 'Complementarian' view.

I have also spent a lot of time reading through an article by "Christians for Biblical Equality": Men, Women, and Biblical Equality, which takes the egalitarian point of view.

Through prayer and study, I've become a "modified complimentarian". There are prescribed roles for women and men, neither is better than the other, both stand equally before the cross, mutual submission, ect...If you're familiar with the issue, you know what I'm talking about.

I don't have a problem with woman in ministry. Let them teach, preach, pray, prophesie (if your into that), do Sunday School and so on. The Harvest shouldn't turn away workers.

As long as they are submitted to a man.

See, I can't reconcile women in leadership roles as elders and pastors.

The critical verse for me is 1 Cor 11:3 "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God" (Read whole Chapter here to see the context).

The verse clearly states that man is the head of woman. I know that people try to interpet this as being a result of the culture and Paul trying to do this or that, but those are people who assume that Paul was trying to oppress women. I don't see this at all because Paul commends women in ministry in some of his other writings.

My view of this is that woman aren't oppressed, but doubly blessed. They not only have the coverage of Christ, but they also have the coverage of their husbands. While Eve was first to take the apple, Adam was the one who was upbraided by God, and when the fall is discussed in the bible, Adam bares the blame.

More on this later.







Monday, June 5, 2006

Church in Transistion: Sermon Preached 6/4/06
I showed up Sunday morning with two complete sermons: One on why the church needs vision, and one on "The Prodigal Son". During worship, I kept going back and forth on which to share. Eventually, I ended up sharing the high points of each. Essentially, it boiled to this: Our church needs to have vision, and everyone needs to walk in the gifts and talents God has given them.

The Church, as in the Bride of Christ, the Church Universal, has three purposes:


1. Ministry to God (Worship)
2. Ministry to the Believers (Nurture)
3. Ministry to the World (Evangelism and Mercy)

Vision is the individual churches expression of these purposes.

As far as The Prodigal Son goes, my 'bent' on the story was that there were people in our congregation that had been given gifts and visions from God, but had 'squandered' them by either not using them (for what ever reasons) or that the had used them, but stopped (for what ever reason).

Gifts, spiritual gifts, are given to individuals for building up the church. They weren't given to people for their sake, but for the Church's sake, and to withhold them was, well, sin.

But God the Father, as characterized by the Father in the parable, is anxious for their return, waiting for them to repent, and restore them.

And where our local church is at right now, we need everyone to step up in what God has gifted them in and called them to.

Some time down the road I'll post my notes.

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Monday, May 22, 2006

Church in Transition: Week 2
This Sunday we met in the usual place, enjoying worship and bringing ourselves to God in praise. The Pastor preached out of Acts 1, discussing the period between when Jesus went up to the Father and Pentecost.

Acts1:7 He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."


Then he was taken up.

The guys went back to Jerusalem, where they picked Mathius as replacement for Judas, and they spent a lot of time together.

Acts 1:14They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.



The disciples lost their leader, and now they were waiting to see what was next.

Now, Pastor's emphasis was on the meeting together and waiting on God. This is good stuff. I think that during anytime of transition, praying and waiting on the Lord are paramount. How else are you going to do the right thing? As I have said in my previous post, we don't want to muscle it up: We want to walk with the Lord and do what he calls us to do. So, while waiting on God, do we feel called to be part of this church, or to move on.

So the challenge laid down was this: Are you in or not? If your in, we need you to jump in with both feet. If not, we want to honor your doubts. If your not in, then we want to bless you as you leave. No hard feelings, no bitterness.

The Pulpit team met and put together a schedule for preaching for June. I'm up on the 4th and possibly the 25th. So, if your praying people who are following this spell binding, gripping tale of a Church in Transition, well, your prayers are appreciated.

I don't think a lot of people are following the story, because my traffic has dropped off since I started it. I guess I should increase the snarkiness level.





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Friday, May 19, 2006

Church in Transition: The Pastor's Letter
Here is an edited letter from my Pastor to the congregation. I'm posting it with his permission. I've removed the names of people and the name of the church because, as I've said before, that's not as important to me as chronicling the heart of the transition.

Most of you know that this past Sunday I announced that I will be leaving this church. Even as I wrote that sentence, my brain locks up from the surge of emotions that come. I know from responses I’ve heard that, for some of you, this news s a shock to your system. My wife and I were certainly not prepared for the turn of events that precipitated this change, so I imagine it was unsettling for you as well.

To answer some of your basic questions, I want to offer some responses that may help you process this change:






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Thursday, May 18, 2006

Church In Transition: A Project Managers Perspective
My surly husband is right in the sense that this has been an emotional roller coaster. This whole church in transition thing really threw me for a loop. On Monday, when I was supposed to be focused on the many important actions on my list of to dos, I was amazed at how much of my brainpower was being chewed up thinking about how our pastor presented us (meaning the church body) the gift of the church that he and his family so sacrificially planted and nurtured for the last 10 years.

Tonight, I questioned his analogy of it being like "picking up the keys" as if the church were something as easy to drive as say a used car perhaps. It's not that easy, both Surly and I have acknowledged that. But then again what is easy?

When a teenager learns to drive a car it isn't as automatic as it is for someone who's been driving for nearly 20 years or more. They need to be fully engaged. Their eyes are being trained to focus on the road ahead as well as any obstacles that would appear around them. Their ears need to be trained on their instructor (yes this is a situation where a teen learns the value of listening to their parents). The young driver is also aware with their hands and feet. Just learning the rocking motion of their feet as they move from gas pedal to break and adjusting their hands to the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock principle takes some awareness. Basically, a young teen driver, who wants to stay on the road, is fully engaged with their whole body.

I think it is the same for our little church. If we want to make a go of it we need all of the members to get engaged. We can't find our way as a body without those who have the gift of vision. We won't make it if our ears aren't attuned to God and to the valuable wisdom of those God may bring to help us. It will also take the hands and feet of all who are involved to truly make a go of things.

Whether or not we can pull off the kind of full-body engagement to make a go of things is to be seen, but in order for us to really grab hold of the keys and take our little church for a drive we're going to need everyone’s gifts to do it.

This brings be to my Project Managers perspective. I'm a marketing communications project manager by day and in my role I assign work to people who are gifted to do various tasks. Each individuals role is specific, important, and rarely interchangeable. I think it is the same in our congregation.

To make a go of it as a body, I believe there are three things that need to be in play:
1) People need to understand their giftings.
2) The body needs to acknowledge their giftings.
3) People need to do the things that God has gifted them to do.

If we can do these three things, I think we'll make it as a church. But, as Surly said, I don't want to force it. God's going to have to be our "driving instructor". Without his coaching, we may run off the road.

Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Church in Transition
I have decided that I am going to blog the transition of the church I attend as the pastor leaves and the members pick up the keys and take ownership.

I'm not naming the church or the pastor because I don't think that's important. I also don't want anyone to lay down judgment on the other people who attend, or the pastor who is leaving. What I think is important is watching to see if the body takes ownership of the church, or choose to close it down.

Close it down? Shut down a church? Unheard of! Some might be shocked at the notion, but I challenge you with this: Maybe God called all these people together for a season, and is about to disperse us. Perhaps what we have learned about community and relationships will make us blessings to other churches.

Take ownership? What's that all about? It's kind of like this: If you have been whining that your church needs a better children's ministry, or a missions trip, or even the hedges pruned, then maybe it's time for someone to do something about it, and that someone is you. It's easy to play Sunday Morning Quarterback from the seats.

See, I'm in a position in the church, along with a couple of other guys, to take control. But I don't want that. The other guys don't want that. We want to see the body, the church, be the church.

I'm not asking for pity or sympathy or anything like that. I think that what we are going through may be an encouragement to others.




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Tuesday, May 16, 2006

Changes O' Plenty!
Well, a little more in the ole "Changes" department. This last Sunday, my Pastor announced that he was leaving. It wasn't that much of a shock, but a shock none the less.

Spiritually, I understand that the (or a) church isn't built on a man, but on Jesus.

Emotionally, it's been a roller coaster the last few days. I'm not afraid of what will become of the little church I belong to. Maybe we will raise up new leaders from within. Maybe we will bring someone else in. Maybe we will dissolve. Who knows? My wife and I will keep praying and see where God leads us.

One of my concerns is the relationships. I hope that the friendships and relationships we have built weather whatever happens to the legal structure that is called a 'church'. In other words, I hope that the community holds up regardless of whether we have a traditional looking church. Does that make sense? Let me try it this way: The relationship and communal factor are more important than if we have the classic Sunday morning get together with music and a message.

Not that I'm against Sunday morning meetings, music, and messages. Perhaps someday I'll go deeper into it, but not today.

The greatest source of angst for me is the unfinished business. I had a friend and mentor that just decided to up and leave. I guess I'm feel abandoned, like the rug has been pulled out from under me. My struggle is to keep my anger in check, and to constantly plumb my heart to make sure bitterness and/pride doesn't take root.


So there. Yet another peek into my soul.



Update:I talked to my pastor this evening. Once I worked through my personal disappointment and frustration, we found some level ground and had a pretty good talk. The one thing that really stood out is that if this is God's call, then we should rejoice and support him. I'm going to assume that God is indeed calling him to move on, and that leaves me no ground for
speculation regarding his motives.